tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8934501894707575928.post8287934969265572947..comments2023-10-12T19:20:39.256+11:00Comments on Jesus over all things.: Tim Challies asks, "Is forgiveness conditional or unconditional?"Timothy Wonil Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02042515329741585937noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8934501894707575928.post-28759154016690077242008-02-19T08:25:00.000+11:002008-02-19T08:25:00.000+11:00Thank you for your comments. I shall check out wha...Thank you for your comments. I shall check out what you collected on the topic of forgiveness too.Timothy Wonil Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042515329741585937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8934501894707575928.post-91044325286534011472008-02-19T02:30:00.000+11:002008-02-19T02:30:00.000+11:00I have a slew of posts on forgiveness over on my b...I have a slew of posts on forgiveness over on my blog. The one containing quotes of several others on forgiveness (Adams, MacArthur, Sande, Piper, Duncan, etc) may be of interest.<BR/><BR/>http://gotpreaching.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/others-on-conditional-forgiveness/Chris Braunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09771419445351378042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8934501894707575928.post-90386300468966382502008-02-19T02:27:00.000+11:002008-02-19T02:27:00.000+11:00Thanks for your careful and cautious interaction. ...Thanks for your careful and cautious interaction. I'm the guy who wrote the manuscript that Tim quotes in his post.<BR/><BR/>It's hard to talk about forgiveness and not generate some confusion in the beginning. Our culture tends to assign a feelings based definition to forgiveness. When people insist that all should be forgiven, what they mean by that is, "You shouldn't be bitter."<BR/><BR/>However, biblically, forgiveness is a transaction that happens between two parties. When God forgives, he commits that our sin will not be held against us.<BR/><BR/>Usually, when I have talked with people long enough about this, they say, "Well, we mean the same thing. It's a matter of semantics." <BR/><BR/>The trouble is, that we cannot redefine biblical words. Semantics are important.<BR/><BR/>A feelings based definition of forgiveness is how we end up with statements such as the one Rob Bell made in Velvet Elvis that hell is full of forgiven people.<BR/><BR/>If one can be forgiven by God, and still go to hell, then forgiveness does not mean what the Bible says it means. . . .Chris Braunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09771419445351378042noreply@blogger.com